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Interview with 'the Folks', Part Five
channeled on October 1, 2008;
checked for updates on February 9, 2009: a very important passage has been added in the meanwhile!

Channelers note: For continuity and understanding~~~
if you haven't already, please first read part one, part two, part three and part four of this interview
and especially the Channelers' note at the top of part one.
In addition to what is stated in our note there, we'd like to mention again
that while they are two essences speaking as one,
'the Folks' refer to themselves individually as 'Spirit' and 'the Mother.'

Continuation: I'm about to leave the ancient site and look beyond it to the south, from where I came (Bet Nehemya)

The American Election
[2009_02_09- "By chance", I'm re-studying this page a day before the Elections in Israel- the experience of which I inserted in another Godchannel file...!]

Channelers: As a reminder for readers,
when 'the Folks' are referring only to themselves we capitalize 'We,' Us,' and 'Our.'
When they refer to themselves and Humans together, these terms are not capitalized.

Folks, we've been feeling triggered about the upcoming American elections this year (2008).
What can you tell us about the transpersonal imprints that are being triggered in us?

"For most humans, government in any guise has been an intimidating form.
Even when you have been on the side the government has favored,
you have experienced distrust of it as a form that has had power over you.
There is deep denial of Will in any form that moves to control behaviors.

"The American elections this year, as in many other countries recently,
have brought the inner battle between deep parts of Self
more prominently into the world.
This is valuable to the healing work
because certain parts of your deep selves that have been in internal conflict
are now projected out onto the world stage in the dramas of elections.

"This battle has been raging at the deepest layer of Being
since before Earth was manifested.
When We the Creators were completely gapped
with no communication between Us,
the beings that We had created took sides with either one or the other of Us.

"A very deep terror of being overrun and consumed by the Mother
and her intense emotional responses
pervaded the Spirit Polarity.
In reaction to this terror in Spirit,
a whole new class of beings emerged
who called themselves 'Father Warriors.'
[see Sept.11>Father Warriors]
The terror these beings felt told them
that they must control the Will
in order to protect Spirit from the Mother,
and moved to do so
in opposition to the Mother and the Will Polarity beings
they perceived as causing their terror.

"The very fact that there has been a battle,
not to mention the tactics of deceit and denial used by the Father Warriors,
has triggered deep terror and revulsion in the Mother.
This battle has been reenacted many, many times in manifestation~~~
and each time love has been the loser.
Even the 'Mother Warriors'
who arose to protect the Mother from the Father Warriors
have been using hatred and denial energy
to further their cause.

"This ancient transpersonal hatred and strife,
this never-ending war,
has felt good to a great many humans
who have made it their own at the personal level.
There are still many on Earth who love a good fight,
and there is still enormous energy
to prolong the ancient battle of the Father Warriors against the Will.
Almost all of the strife in your civilization
has been in reaction
to the unconscious, frozen terror of the lost Will
in your lower chakras.

"The 'world economy'
is another example of an intimidating form in your civilization
where fear is triggered
to help fortify the position of those who 'own' things.
The perceived need and very premise for civilization
is to protect those who have ownership of material abundance
from those who don't.
And this too has been a reenactment of the ancient battle
the Father Warriors have been waging against the Will.

"You have been feeling terror and revulsion in your politics recently
because this lost Will in humanity is being triggered more than usual.
Still operating is the ancient strategy of the Father Warriors
to trigger fear in the population
and then show that only they have the power to protect the population.
This strategy was used when they first came to Earth
and is being used now to see that their human surrogates win the current election.
Any effort to go up against this
will only trigger more denied terror,
and the Father Warriors will simply use it
to show everyone why they should stay in power."

Thank you Folks, what do you suggest we do here by way of healing?

"First, find the frozen terror in yourselves
that has been triggered by the world stage events,
and bring the light of loving acceptance to your own lost Will.
You can do this more easily
when you remember
that you are truly safe
and that the world stage events are happening
for the purpose of triggering this frozen terror
so that full loving acceptance and healing can finally come to it.

"As your Will essence begins to vibrate with your acceptance,
you also have a good opportunity
to take your projections off
of the economic leaders and politicians on the world stage.
You can now own them as parts of yourselves, which they truly are.

"The Father Warriors and their strategies of denial
are alive within your deep Being.

" Bring the ancient war home to the only place it can be healed,
inside of you.
You will be pleasantly surprised
by the powerful results
of owning and healing the perpetrators within yourself.

"The outer political beliefs that seem opposite of yours
are being held inside of you by parts of yourself
that you have been unconscious of,
parts that are still in your shadow.
These are fragments of spirit
that can lead you to the lost Will they have been controlling.
The key to doing this is
in your willingness
to own the perpetrators
you've been seeing outside of yourself
as the reflections of bona fide parts of your whole Being."

Thank you Folks, what else can we do to heal this gap between loving Light and lost Will?

"You can find the qualities

that you abhor in the politicians and business leaders you don't agree with,

and then find the parts of yourselves that have had these qualities.

You must of course be honest with yourself,

and judgment release is vital here.

"Please remember that you have been innocent all along.
There has been much unconsciousness,
and yet evolution happens.

All that has been unconscious is destined to become conscious.

The main issue now is that your Human identity
has been squeezed into a very small container
by the conditioning of the civilization that has sought to control you.
The time has now come
for this conditioning to move~~~
your full, undenied greatness
is needed
for the healing at hand."

[June 12, 2010, I've finally grasped this message! See my final understanding of "self-sacrifice"!]

From this perspective the path under the Highway - which I had walked 5 times the week before - can be clearly seen.
(see the photos in "Interview with God, V" , in "Grandfather Pages" and in the song of the Hermann Hesse poem: "Steps"}
It's the path which leads to the "Immanuel Cave", and though on this Day I did not include it in my Tomer-less outing,
- we did go there the next day together, after I had shown him my discoveries on this day: the ancient site and the destroyed Arab village (see soon)

The Truth That is Deeper Than Judgment

Thank you Folks,
near the end of Part Four of this interview you said something similar,
that as humans we are responsible for all that has happened in Creation.
At first glance it could seem
that this means humans are somehow at fault for all the evil that is present on Earth now.
Would you please say more about this?

"First, as We mentioned in that part,
it's important to make the distinction
between 'responsibility' and blame or fault.
As what has been hidden within you
comes into the light of your loving consciousness,
you can see more clearly
that there really is no valid reason for either blame or fault.

"As Spirit has said [in .parentsletter>doing the best],
everyone has always been doing the best they could
with what they were working with at the time.
The only guilt or blame that exists is
that which has been held in place by the judgments in imprints.
Since none of those judgments are true,
neither is the guilt or blame.

"The judgments are either directly released
or they spontaneously release as part of the imprints' healing
in the clear truth of loving Light.
Love is what is true,
judgments and denial are not,
and neither is the guilt or blame they hold present in feelings.

"Although it may seem strange to the Human mind,
it is true that everything that has happened in this Universe
has happened the only way it could have.
In other words, everything has happened just as it was supposed to.
This is important to know
because in order to succeed as the Healer [see 4 steps>healer]
you will simply have to trust
that the Universe has been good and operating correctly at all times."

Continuation of coping with another explosion of "Embedded Denial"

2011-11-03- 2013_03_08

DELICIOUS DELETION

2 hours after I sent off the letter to the right, I received the following response in the biggest letters available in g-mail:

2011-11-03- 2013_03_08

DELICIOUS DELETION

This was on November 3, 2011. As to the final result of my process towards understanding,
see at the end of the page "Full-Fill-ment in Godchannel's message"

The Universe is Good and Operating Correctly at All Times

"Obviously,
there has been a tremendous amount of evil and perpetration in the Universe.
And not so obviously
there has been an evolving movement
to heal the imprints and their reenactments
that the evil and perpetration have been part of.

"The reenacting of ancient, transpersonal imprints
has been part of a good Universe operating correctly,
moving from pain and fragmentation
toward healing and wholeness.
Now that more Humans have become aware of the issues
and have more and more willingness to heal these imprints,
real healing has begun in many of these imprints~~~
both in the human healers themselves
and in Creation as a whole.

"In understanding responsibility,
it's important to know
that you can be responsible only when you decide to take responsibility.
And you can heal only what you take responsibility to heal.
Otherwise, the healing of these ancient imprints is left to someone else.

And if there is someone else who is more responsible than you~~~
then you would be a fragment of that larger whole,
and therefore not the Healer.

"Wholeness of Being is your birthright as a Human.
However, by its very nature, it is not something that can be given to you.
Your wholeness and your healing are yours for the having,
and you can have them
when you take full and loving responsibility
for all of the evil and perpetration in Creation~~~
as well as for all of the goodness and beauty.

You Are the Universe

"To get a feel for this movement, pause for a moment now~~~
and imagine something good in Creation.
When you have chosen something~~~
observe it carefully and then say to yourself,
'I did that.'
The 'I' who was speaking
was speaking for the deepest part of your identity.
You were speaking for Us, the Creators in you.

"Now take another momentary pause
and imagine something that's evil in Creation.
When you've thought of something,
take a deep breath~~~
observe it carefully and then say to yourself,
'I did that.'
Again, you spoke the truth of the deepest part of your identity.
This is where true Human greatness rests,
in your ultimate identity as the Universe itself~~~
all of it, including
all that has felt 'good' and all that has felt 'evil.'

"Now here is a vitally important point.
The new awareness of your deepest Self as perpetrator
can lead you to one of two places~~~
the 'courtroom' or the 'classroom.'
In the courtroom you will find guilt for yourself as the perpetrator,
and because that guilt is fundamentally untrue,
justice will be elusive.
This is because the courtroom is about
accusations, judgments, guilt, blame, and suffering.
In the classroom however, there is opportunity
to learn, evolve~~~ and heal.

"If there are judgments to release,
feel the 'bad' feeling
and release the judgments.
Then immediately feel back into the feeling without judgment
and come into loving acceptance of the feeling energy
as a rightful part of your wholeness.

"If deep denial energy is in the evil
you sense in yourself,
release that as well.
Then feel back into the feeling essence
that had to hold the denial for so long,
and own that feeling energy too as a rightful part of your whole Being.
And of course you can also release the denial energy in a feeling
by v i b r a t ing the feeling
with your pure, loving acceptance
until the denial energy can no longer stay present.

"If you are fully identified in the feeling essence
you can move your body and sound the feeling to express it.
Dance and song work well together
to embody the feeling
and bring it fully into manifestation.
The denial energy in the feeling will then spontaneously release
as the feeling's expression moves from tortured compression
to full-bodied joy and mirth.

How does this single red anemone embellish the entire area!

"As Humans begin to truly heal their Wills,
your loving conscious awareness will find the right ways
to release the denial energy
that has made you unsafe to be with the Mother.
Spirit has spoken more about this whole process of owning the perpetrator
in Redeeming the Devils.

"As you awaken to your true greatness,
you become responsible for what had always been left to someone else.
You, the Healer are not to blame for the perpetration
you now take responsibility for healing.
And again, in doing this work,
the courtroom is not an appropriate venue.
However, the classroom is.

"Although the ancient conditioning has been deeply entrenched,
it can be overcome
with determined perseverance and consistent self-love.
Otherwise you will find yourself once again in the old default place~~~
the courtroom,
where the imprints keep reenacting
and you continue to experience reversals in your life."

"Instead, use the opportunity of your new awareness
to intentionally foster your learning and healing.
With your attention and willingness focused on evolving and healing,
you will be able to move more quickly
to claim your birthright~~~
a whole and vibrant Will and her whole Spirit, loving Spirit~~~
embodied in loving union
with enough vital magnetic Mother energy
to draw into manifestation whatever you truly desire."

I've finally parted from the ancient site , walk up the trail which passes along its western part and once more overlook both, the highway to the south and the path to Bet Nehemya

Cosmic Human Identity

Thank you Folks,
it seems like a good idea to keep ourselves in constant self-forgiveness
when we venture deeply into the universal shadow.
What you've said also seems to again raise the issue of identity.
You suggest that Human identity is really a cosmic identity.
How can this be?

"The sense of your constant, unchanging identity
is important to keeping you oriented
as the person you feel yourself to be.
The same person who goes to sleep at night wakes in the morning.
However, this sense of being a separate person
who has a life and a personal history
is not all of who you are.

"Your true Human identity is with life itself.
Although it may seem strange to hear,
it is accurate to say
that very few Humans have actually lived.
Except for brief moments here and there,
almost all Humans over age five
have been too frightened
to venture outside of the models of reality and the identity
that your mind has constructed for you.

"You have believed yourselves
to be small and unimportant in the grand scheme of things.
And this will remain true for you
so long as you continue to unconsciously honor
the perspectives and beliefs
that the conditioning in your mind has held you to.

"Your true identity is so much more than you've thought yourself to be.
As We have said, [in .folksinterview4>greatness]
Humans are amazingly vast Beings
with potentials well beyond your present ability to imagine.
You have all of the parts of Deity within you,
and if you choose,
you may identify as any of these parts,
or as all of Deity combined~~~
the whole Universe and its Creators.
Of course you must first leave behind
the erroneous old beliefs from your conditioning
and the disempowering self-hatred they have engendered.

"Spirit has pointed out [in .identity>healer]
that there is a specific identity in Deity
that will serve you well as the Healer of yourself~~~
and therefore of all Creation.
There is one identity that straddles both
the first and second attention [in .reality4>where],
and it is the essence of your humanness as well.

"Your true Human greatness is not in yourself as Spirit, or as Mother, or as Heart.
Your true greatness is in yourself as Body.
Spirit has said that your identity is flexible
[in .identity>flexible],
that your identity is as you choose it to be in the moment,
and that when you choose to identify as Body,
you are placing yourself in the position of the Healer of yourself~~~
and therefore of Creation.

"This choice of identity is only possible
if you are not identifying inside the mind
with its maps of pasts and futures
and stories about who you are and who you've been.
For instance,
your sense of 'I' living 'my life'
is an example of an unreal, mentally constructed identity.
What you've known as your 'life'
is essentially a story your mind has made up
about yourself as a separate fragment of a larger whole, 'the world.'
And this is all that your mind can know about you~~~
a story about the identity of the main character in the movie of your life [in .reality2>movie].
The mind cannot know your real, true Self.

"There is much, much more to your humanness
than in your made-up identity as the person who lives your life.
Your true identity is vast and well beyond your personal story
of separation, struggle, triumph, elation, defeat, pain
and a faint, distant longing for something you can't quite touch.

[This last part must have been added long after the date of the original channeling. I discovered it only on February 9, 2009]

"What the mind-made identity
that has been masquerading as you
cannot know
is the true nature of reality,
just as it is in the present moment.
While you have been asleep [see .index>awakening]
and lost in the mind's models of reality
with stories of past and future,
while you have been living in a dream-like story
that you have come to know as 'your life,'
your true Identity has been patiently waiting for you,
always here in the eternal present moment,
just outside of mind.

"However, this does not mean
that your personal, mental identity is completely unreal.
Your old, familiar self is real in that it is a part of your larger identity.
It's just that this 'self' you've known is not all of who you are.
The small, accustomed ego-based personal self you've called 'me'
is only the tip of a very large iceberg~
the vast, universal Self you truly are.

"As Grandfather has said, [see in .grandfatherinterview2>Magical Body]
the true Human identity is timeless, eternal.
As a present and fully whole Human Being,
you are what brings Divinity into manifestation,
you are the manifesting part of Deity,
you are Body.

"Trust yourself as Body.
When identified as Body
you can quickly rescue the old conditioned 'you'
from the traps of the mind's conditioning
and into full presence in true, loving, unconditioned reality.
Whenever you want to know how to find the present moment,
touch your body.
And then as Body,
feel into the quality of the touch.
Until you go back into thought,
you are here now in the one, eternal present moment.
And of course you can do this practice anytime you like."

Thank you, Folks.
You mentioned that of all of the parts of Deity,
Body exists in two different ways,
in both the first attention and second attention [see in .reality4>where].
Please say more about this?

"In what is called the first attention,
you are Body as the physical form
that was conceived by your parents,
born on your birthday
and has ever since been growing and evolving as a part of manifestation.
And in the second attention,
at a deeper layer of Self you are the cosmic Being
that is both what manifests the Universe
and is the Universe.

"Words can only be pointers here,
useful as metaphors but not as containers of truth.
The reality of your true identity that We are pointing to
is beyond what words can speak or the mind can grasp.
To the mind this may likely seem to be a paradox.
That is because what We are saying
must be felt to be understood.
And as We mentioned earlier,
it is only in the way something feels
that you can truly know it."

Okay Folks, thank you very much.

Interview with the Folks, Part One ~ Part Two ~ Part Three ~ Part Four

The Highway 6 leads to a junction further south, from where it will only be some 30 km to Jerusalem on a road to Jerusalem which leads through Palestinian land

Adjacent to the ancient site I find another old site, not so ancient, but just as forgotten:
the site, which seems to have been one of the 500 Arab villages which were destroyed after 1948.
Continuation of the pictures of my "Tomer-less" hike as background to the "Learning Experience with 'Embedded (Self-)Denial' ", Febr.7, 2009
in the first "Interview with God",
which was channeled 11 years before this "fifth Interview with the Folks".

Interview with God

Part One | Part Two | Part Three | Part Four | Part Five

Part Six: The Ego

Original File

Channelers:
God, many readers who have identified themselves as 'spiritual seekers' have found their way to the site,
and some have expressed confusion about the spiritual teachings here.
A question that's come up over the years goes like this,
"Isn't the whole point of spirituality to let go of our egos and become humble?
And doesn't this material say just the opposite,
that we should believe ourselves to be even bigger and more special and more self-important?"

"This is Spirit.
Humility is an important quality to foster
if you are to free yourself from the traps
that have caused suffering and fragmentation.
However, true humility and ego's place in the healing
is much more significant than has been previously understood.

"The ego you are referring to is also called the personal self.
Your personal self is a wondrous creation
of your deeper Self in collaboration with the Universe,
and a very important part of Creation.
And of course your ego or personal self is not who you really are,
it is only who you have believed yourself to be.

"The state of your whole Self at the layer of your personhood is fragmentation.
Each fragment of your whole Self
has been separate from your other fragments and separate from the Universe.
And each of these fragments is called 'ego.'
In every ego state you experience, your belief is, 'This is who I am.'
In other words,
you have been identifying yourself as a fragment that is separate from others,
and who is a part of a larger whole.
You have identified yourself as apart from the Universe.
And of course, this is not wrong; this is simply where the healing begins.

"When you become aware of your personal self,
your identity shifts from being that personal self
to being the observer of it.
And this can be the first movement
that consciousness makes toward true wholeness.
Countless spiritual teachings have also pointed to this movement
as an essential step toward 'enlightenment' and 'self realization.'

"The realization of yourself as the observer can be the beginning of
consciousness freeing itself from sentience,
of spirit freeing itself from your feeling essence,
or in other words,
Spirit lifting out of the pain of Body and Will.
This realization has presented consciousness with a choice,
and often the choice has been to remain the observer
and stay clear of the pain of sentience.
However, this same realization can also be
the beginning of you as the Healer
coming to the aid of a suffering part of the Feminine essence in you.

"The first thought that has come to the new observer of ego has typically been something like,
'Yuck, I don't want to be that separate self anymore,
there is so much suffering in that fear and unfulfilled desire.
I will transcend all of that and become whole as pure spirit."
With some practice,
many spiritual seekers have been able to feel compassion for their former egoic self,
and yet have been content
to simply remain present as the eternal observer,
essentially leaving their old identity behind.
This, however is not the evolutionary path of consciousness and Spirit,
and it is not a path to true wholeness.

"True wholeness requires
that you return to the suffering separate, egoic identity
with unconditionally loving acceptance
for that important part of Self you had once believed yourself to be.
Return to the fragment, but no longer identifying with the fragment.
Return instead with your heightened awareness
as observer on a mission of healing.
Return in identification with loving Spirit,
return in service to this piece of the Feminine essence
that has been separated from her true identity,
separated from the wholeness of the Universal Feminine."

What the Spiritually Awakened Know

"Spiritually awakened beings know
that the ego has been problematic in that it has so often believed that it is who you are.
They also know that the truth is that the personal 'me' they'd known as their self is quite limited,
and only a small part of who you truly are, your real, whole Self.

"If you are spiritually awakened, you know
that sometimes your ego may have identified itself with your body
and other times as 'not body.'
The saying, 'I am a spiritual being having a human experience,'
is an example of identifying as 'not body.'
Ironically, identification with Body in both
its smaller sense (your personal body)
and its larger sense (a Parent of Manifestation)
is a relatively quick way out of ego identification.

"The spiritually awakened also know that
although it seems real to itself,
the ego or personal self is only a creature of the mind and feelings;
it doesn't exist anywhere except as an assemblage of feelings, thoughts and ideas.
These feelings and mental abstractions are usually
in the form of a story about who you are, the story of you.
The story begins with your birth in a certain place and on a certain date.
Whatever facts you may have heard about the event are added to the story.
And the story goes on;
you were a child who did certain things, experienced certain events, had relationships good and bad, etc.
Then you were an adolescent, a young adult,
and the history of you, the story of you and how you feel about your story
continues up to the present moment.

"This story is made up of thoughts
that include your accomplishments and failures and possessions,
your likes and dislikes and everything else
you have in your sense of self, your personal identity.
All of these are only thought forms;
they are only concepts in your mind about who you think you are.
You know that all of it may be 'true' in a limited sense,
and you know it's only a small fraction of who you actually are.

"You realize that the ego is a made-up self that has formed beneath your awareness.
You also know that when you use the word 'me,' or when you think of 'myself,'
you are referring to your ego or to some concept of yourself as a person.
And you probably know that this is not wrong.
It's just a very limiting identity.
You realize that who you truly are
is much more than any 'person' could ever be
and that this includes all ego states as well.

"When first reading the material here,
your ego may try to expand itself to include
what you are learning through your feeling sense about your true nature.
Feeling this material can help you realize
that you are a huge, cosmic Being
capable of holding all of Creation within yourself.
The ego would like to expand itself to include your true identity beyond ego.
However the ego will soon get bored with this,
because as you sense your true identity,
you will also realize
that this does not make you in any way special or even important.
True greatness is about your real identity
and is based in a deep humility
that most ego cannot even bear to consider.

"As a spiritually awakened being you know
that the ego defines itself by its specialness and separateness from the whole.
The more separate or different the ego feels itself to be,
the larger and stronger it becomes.
And yet the ego is never more than just that,
the sense of a separate self.
And of course you know the ego is never the totality of who you really are,
it can never be your whole Self."

Two Kinds of Ego

"Generally speaking, there are two kinds of ego states,
resourceful and non-resourceful.
Resourceful egos feel empowered and capable.
They are quite functional,
have a relatively high sense of self-esteem
and feel themselves to be whole.
Although they enjoy their distinctiveness and specialness,
this kind of ego can aid your evolution
by surrendering itself to a larger, less limited whole.
You can do this when identified with this kind of ego
by allowing yourself to dissolve into the Universe or 'God realization'
as many spiritual teachings advocate.
The ego, the smaller whole surrenders itself entirely to the larger whole,
and in this surrender you become spiritually awakened.

"Terror of death is the issue that most often arises when first attempting this practice.
Finding the energy of that fear in your body
and loving it into wholeness with the rest of you
will make this unusually powerful practice much easier to do.
Once you get the knack of moving the terror of dying,
you'll be able to more and more often let go of your current sense of identity
and merge with the totality of your true Self.
It is here that you can find your connection with the Universal Feminine,
and therefore with my Light, loving Spirit.

"Non-resourceful ego states are a different matter, however,
and there is a different path for their evolution.
The pain of separation presents itself in a non-resourceful state you experience
when you are triggered into an imprint.
This pain can show up as fear, anger, grief
or as a combination of any of these 'negative' emotions
from horror and revulsion to mild antipathy or depression.
This is not the kind of ego you want to dissolve or otherwise escape from
if your primary intention is healing yourself to wholeness.

"You don't want to throw the proverbial baby out with the bath water,
and you certainly don't want to disdain ego,
or in any way oppose the sense of yourself as a separate person.
Your disdain or opposition will only serve to cause a deeper separation
and move you farther from realizing your wholeness.
Any resistance will help strengthen the ego
by making its separation seem more real.
On the other hand,
unconditional acceptance of the non-resourceful ego, just as it is,
will move you out of identification with ego
and toward your true wholeness.
In the case of non-resourceful ego,
unconditionally accepting its pain
as energy in your body
is the way out.
The practices of judgment release and deep denial release
can make this much easier to do than you may have believed."

The Danger

"For millennia the ego has been seen by spiritual seekers as a serious problem to be overcome,
and spirituality aside,
the ego has been problematic for consciousness in many other ways as well.
However, every non-resourceful ego state is also the tip of an iceberg.
If you follow the pain of any separate 'self' all the way down,
you will find a separated and lost part
of the Universal Feminine
and the denied spirit that has kept her separate.
In other words, you will find that non-resourceful ego,
the problematic and painful personal self,
arises out of the eternal suffering
present in deep transpersonal imprints.

"Unfortunately many spiritual practices have aided the denial energy in imprints
to continue keeping the tortured feminine essence
separate from the rest of the Universal Feminine and from Loving Spirit.
The propensity for consciousness to want to lift out of the suffering sentient essence
has too often been encouraged by spiritual teachings
that promote observing the suffering rather than being it.

"The danger here is to miss the call for help
in the non-resourceful ego state's underlying sentient essence
or to disparage the ego and its sense of separateness.
What is being called for at a level deeper than most spirituality has been able to embrace
is for you to somehow [??] find unconditional loving acceptance
for the separate egoic part just as it is now,
separate, terrified, in pain and 'problematic.'
This is possible because there is now a third kind of ego,
a non-imprinted part of you
that can choose to be the Healer of yourself.
Identifying with this kind of ego or persona
can enable you to unravel and heal all of the issues you have been facing in your life,
including how to become self-realized and truly enlightened."

The Healer is the Redemption of Ego

"When you say 'I am the Healer of myself,'
you become identified as a new persona;
the Healer is now a part of you.
However, this non-imprinted persona is quite different from all the other separate parts.
This ego state is based in love and resourcefulness
and has a strong desire for wholeness with the rest of self;
it does not feel itself as separate like the other ego states.
When you become identified in the Healer persona
you become immediately aligned
with the core intention and purpose of this Universe
and with the Grand Universe that has spawned us all.

"With this alignment
you can realize the divine purpose of separateness and ego,
and begin to bring healing to your own fragmentation, your inner separateness.
This is truly the redemption of ego,
the purpose of separate identity fulfilled in a way beyond your present understanding.

"At the personal level
you the human being
as New Heart in Body
are now the Healer of yourself.
This means that you accept the healing mission~~~
to find and heal with unconditional loving acceptance
all of those previously separate, 'problematic' or 'egoic' parts of yourself
that had been giving you so much trouble.
And you do this
by being lovingly parental to each and every one of them,
not by trying to get rid of them or lift out of them.
This means that you honor all of these parts,
welcome them inside your total identity,
and love them unconditionally as valid and legitimate parts of yourself.

"In this way you heal yourself to wholeness,
which is to say you realize your wholeness
by compassionately loving these separate parts, just as they are.
When you do this integration at the personal layer of your identity,
you are also integrating parts in deeper layers of your Being.
And when you and I are in alignment
and collaborating in the healing work in general,
we are healing at the universal level as well.
Truly,
to heal your whole self
is tantamount to healing Creation.

"The wounds that you have been experiencing as your own
did not begin with you,
you have inherited them from Us, the Creators of this Universe.
Every part of your personal self
has a deeper story
of painful separation from the totality deep within your core.
We were wounded Creators in the beginning,
and We are now healing,
just as you have been a wounded Being and a wounded person
who is now healing.

"As I've pointed out, you are hosting the world.
The outside world you experience at the personal layer of identity
is within the totality of the whole Being you truly are.
Your awareness is the field in which the Universe exists;
if you were not here to hold it in your perception,
it could not be here either.
The Mother and I have spoken about this
in terms of your greatness,
and we have cautioned against continuing to deny your greatness
in favor of the very powerful conditioning
that has had you believing that your true identity is part of a larger whole.

"The painful, wounded parts of yourself are like the tips of icebergs;
their roots are in the universal imprints
deep in the most unconscious layers of your Being.
When you and I are together
and the healing movement happens at the personal layer of identity,
it reverberates all the way down the imprint to the original trauma in the universal layer.
In this way both the universal level healing
and the personal level healing
of these long-separated parts happens at the same time,
and both happen inside of you.
And the more awareness you have
of the transpersonal imprints and their movement in healing,
the more meaningful the healing at the personal level.

"Your ego is a vital part of Creation.
And if its story is about you being the Healer of yourself,
that ego can be your personal savior.
Use the sense of separateness you find inside of yourself
as a means of realizing your healing intent.
Then as your own Healer,
love each separate part
until there is no more separation in you.
And when you are healed and whole,
the Universe you have been hosting will be healed as well."

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